Pandemic: March 11, 2020

Central governments are trying to dictate how people behave regarding the Coronavirus, but they don’t have enforcement mechanisms. What would an ideal distributed platform look like? What would we want for our neighborhoods and regions?
Call recording link:

In the call, we discuss the information and data sources we would want, mutual aid, and Ostrom’s 8 principles. Following are notes from the chat (that don’t cover the discussion, but do include relevant links and additional reading.)

dGov Call Viruses

From Michal to Everyone: 02:22 PM

just wanted to add Grace that I saw maps like that

in Singapore they made transmission graphs

From Me to Everyone: 02:22 PM

Cool! Links?

From Michal to Everyone: 02:23 PM

where you could see a lot of those things

(would need to look for it… going through a lot of info)

From Me to Everyone: 02:23 PM

You can add late to the dgov.forum when we post this.

From Michal to Everyone: 02:24 PM

another thing is even if you do ok as a community, it doesn’t guarantee your safety since the virus doesn’t care — there was a great write up about how it happened in Seattle, despite seemingly Ebola-like measures

From Eyal E to Everyone: 02:30 PM

where is the dgov channel or forum?

From Me to Everyone: 02:30 PM

https://forum.dgov.foundation/c/weekly-dgov-calls

From Eyal E to Everyone: 02:31 PM

thanks

From Michal to Everyone: 02:36 PM

@Grace - this is the network graph: https://co.vid19.sg/cases

those are other nice dashboards: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615330/best-worst-coronavirus-dashboards/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R8bET9nCLGDc6hKEvrnQGlcToC4CALCqD_Xv16gy_5c/edit - an impact model (IF the virus is to stay)

this has data per district, in Berlin: https://blog.datawrapper.de/coronaviruscharts/

From Lauren Nignon to Everyone: 02:36 PM

The right data and factual information

From MARTIN DOW to Everyone: 02:39 PM

@Seth My thoughts were about publishing to a “safe space” …

… whatever protocols that “safe space” might follow re access

From Lauren Nignon to Everyone: 02:43 PM

Yes, (in China) the program gives you a CoronaVirus score and if you are in the red zone, they send that info to the police

From MARTIN DOW to Everyone: 02:44 PM

@Michal In the UK it varies by region :slight_smile:

From Michal to Everyone: 02:45 PM

Yes - I’m overgeneralizing

(based on the south of England)

think Hove and telling people to “behave” in Hove

From Seth Goldfarb to Everyone: 02:45 PM

@Martin Certainly a good case for a decentralized protocol!

From MARTIN DOW to Everyone: 02:45 PM

South East - yeah!

@Seth +1

8 Principles for Managing a Commons

  • Define clear group boundaries.
  • Match rules governing use of common goods to local needs and conditions.
  • Ensure that those affected by the rules can participate in modifying the rules.
  • Make sure the rule-making rights of community members are respected by outside authorities.
  • Develop a system, carried out by community members, for monitoring members’ behavior.
  • Use graduated sanctions for rule violators.
  • Provide accessible, low-cost means for dispute resolution.
  • Build responsibility for governing the common resource in nested tiers from the lowest level up to the entire interconnected system.

From Lauren Nignon to Everyone: 02:51 PM

For anyone who would like to join us in the CoronavirusWisdom chatroom to talk about putting together a p2p strategy, using DAOs, collective intelligence, dgov, etc. https://t.me/joinchat/KFwHIRjDklH2hYfqDeSGLQ

(Telegram)

From Jeff Emmett to Everyone: 02:52 PM

https://medium.com/commonsstack/automating-ostrom-for-effective-dao-management-cfe7a7aea138https://twitter.com/jeffemmett/status/1228014498793115648

whoops those got lumped into one URL

From Lauren Nignon to Everyone: 02:51 PM

For anyone who would like to join us in the CoronavirusWisdom chatroom to talk about putting together a p2p strategy, using DAOs, collective intelligence, dgov, etc. https://t.me/joinchat/KFwHIRjDklH2hYfqDeSGLQ

(Telegram)

From Jeff Emmett to Everyone: 02:53 PM

https://medium.com/commonsstack/automating-ostrom-for-effective-dao-management-cfe7a7aea138https://twitter.com/jeffemmett/status/1228014498793115648

whoops those got lumped into one URL

lets try that again

From Lauren Nignon to Everyone: 02:59 PM

Here’s the Telegram chat again: https://t.me/joinchat/KFwHIRjDklH2hYfqDeSGLQ

From Michal to Everyone: 03:02 PM

maybe “belief” is a bit easier word to deal with than “faith”

socio-technical belief systems : D

From Lauren Nignon to Everyone: 03:03 PM

I think that is what is missing in our movement, the overall “whole body” story.

From Jeff Emmett to Everyone: 03:04 PM

Belief works for me as well as faith, words are funny. They develop meaning in different forms for different people.

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